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The Dirtbombs Interview
Over the course of 2 months, I’ve had the
pleasure of shooting emails back and forth with Ben Blackwell of
the Dirtbombs. On stage,
Ben gets to be one half of the dueling drum juggernaut, off stage
and behind his computer he’s one of the most intriguing figures
around the resurgent Detroit scene.
This interview flourished while procrastinating at the office
and Ben always being online.
Lucky for me… Ben fielded every off the wall question – from
what his top 5 recordings were, to his take on Butch Vig’s work
on Nevermind and Steve Albini’s work on In Utero.
I wish I could include every bit of information that was
exchanged throughout the past few months of correspondence, but
space would never permit. Interview conducted in person
by Motor City Rollie during early 2002.
Names: Ben Blackwell
(Drums)
Band: The Dirtbombs
Rollie: I have to ask
about the current line up.…who's on it, for how long now and is
it the best lineup thus far?
Ben: Mick Collins, goat
herding/booking agent; Jim Diamond, "oh no's,” money manager;
Pat Pantano, y'all's, heart-breaker; and Tom Potter, woo's, waking
up early. This line-up first got together in January of 2000, and
didn't play our first show together until November of the same year.
I think it's the best line-up by default. We've been together longer
than all the other line-ups combined, so the shee r
law of averages says we're the best. But, if you wanted a ratio of
how many good releases we have over total releases, we'd probably
be far behind any line-up with Dana Spicer.
R: Haha… I highly doubt
that. The Dirtbombs,
as dynamic as the band iswith it's staging (two drummers, a bassist
and two guitarists from the New Years Eve show) how does the entire
band get on the same page?
B: The Dirtbombs are
never on the same page. That's why we're so good. Usually, Jim and
Pat will be locked in together with the rhythm, Tom and I will be
trading spit takes and tagging each other, while Mick is always alone
in his little secret world.
R: I can't think of a
band that is more rooted with Detroit than the Dirtbombs.
The collective songs off of Ultraglide in Black all
have a distinctive sound... I don't want to paint the band into the corner of “the garage
sound,” but they specifically sound like they came from Detroit.
With that said, do all songs really come from Detroit?
B: Um..."ode to
a blackman" was written by a black guy from Ireland. That's about
as Detroit as it gets.
R: The 7 inches.…how many
so far and which ones are the band members favorites thus far?
B: The Dirtbombs appear
on ten 45’s, with an 11th on the way. I don't like any of the ones
I appear on, I guess I'm just self-deprecating. I think my favorite
would probably be the "maybe your baby" b/w "theme
from the dirtbombs" single. It lit a tiny spark inside my heart
for the D'bombs that has never gone out.
R: San Francisco *Noise
Pop Festival*, how did it go and did the band intend to blow everyone
else off billing? Was
the experience positive? What
have the Dirtbombs taken after playing the festival.
B: Noisepop was great.
The show was sold out, we were all in-sync, and the show ended with
me wearing my bass drum as a hat. The Dirtbombs have taken Valium,
Percosat, Midol and Ritalin after the show.
R: Detroit is experiencing
a renaissance in respect to its music scene.
What is your take on the few Venues we have….and national/international
acts continuing to skip Detroit as a city to play in?
B: The venues in Detroit
are great. Mainly the Magic Stick and the Lagerhouse. But, I've never
noticed national/international acts to skip Detroit. Do you know something
I don't?
R: Funny that you mentioned
the Magic Stick and the Lagerhouse…
The Dirtbombs, along with the slew of other local acts that
are on (or once were) Sympathy for the Record Industry have staked
that venue as a 2nd home.
Do you agree?
B: The Magic Stick is
like a playground for those in the Detroit garage scene to debauch.
There's a bowling alley, a pizzeria, an upscale cafe, a thousand seat
theater, pool tables, etc, etc. I think it's most appealing feature
is that it's very unpretentious….it just feels like home, very comfortable.
That and the fact that the people running the place know what's going
on. It's not hard to get a show there or to get people to show up,
everyone seems to just get along really well.
R: I was reading an article
late last year about some emerging NYC acts. ( the Strokes, Yeah
Yeah Yeahs whom you’re playing with I understand you’re playing
with soon, and the Walkmen )
The Strokes were asked if they could possibly the next city
to have a “scene.” To
my surprise… they said that they didn’t feel that NYC didn’t have
a scene or could ever really develop one because they don’t have
a specific venue to play at, or have bands that they could really
buddy up with. They
went on to say that NYC is a very hard city to play in because you
compete with national/international acts every night. While we don’t
have these problems in Detroit, do you think that we’re in the midst
of having a “scene.” Do
you think that there’s a good group of bands that really lean on
each other? If so which?
B: Can't go two questions
without being asked about the ever-burgeoning "scene" in
Detroit. It just comes down to being friends. Like I said, people
get along, whether you're in a power pop band, an Electric Eels tribute
group, or a 2-piece blues band covering Fred McDowell. I don't want
to make a list of bands for fear of forgetting some, but I'd generally
go by the bands that appear on the Sympathetic Sounds comp.
It's a pretty accurate barometer.
R: Any new plans for a
new Sympathetic Sounds comp?
B: There's supposed to
be Sympathy comps for Memphis and San Diego (compiled by
Jeffrey Evans and John Reis, respectively), but I have no idea
when those are gonna come out.
R: The “new” album, how
are things going as far as recording the long awaited follow up
album? Will we be seeing
more 7” or a new full length on Red Line Records?
What does it sound like?
Will it have any appearances from other Detroit acts?
If so, whom?
B: As for the new album,
slow down. No songs are written yet and we don't even know when we're
going to record it. We're touring in Europe in May and then we're
going to worry about all that other stuff.
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